Wikivir:Pod lipo

Dobrodošli pod lipo!

Stran je namenjena splošnim razpravam in vprašanjem glede različnih vidikov slovenskega Wikivira.
For non-Slovene speaking users: This page serves both as a centralized discussion page for various issues concerning the Slovene Wikisource community and as an Embassy.

Dodajte novo temo na dno strani / Add a new topic

Obvestila

[Uredi] 27. julij 2009 - 3000 člankov. Članek Kastracijski stroji je prispeval Smihael. --Janezdrilc 12:37, 29. julij 2009 (UTC) Na festivalu Slovenski dnevi knjige so v torek, 21. aprila 2009, ob 17. uri v dvorani Društva slovenskih pisateljev pripravili pogovor o literaturi na svetovnem spletu. Pogovor, ki ga je vodila Milena Mileva Blažič, se je dotaknil vprašanj e-baz podatkov (npr. Wikipedia) in možnosti promocije literature, e-pisateljevanja za mlade ter pouka slovenščine prek spleta. Okrogle mize so se udeležili: Milena Mileva Blažič (voditeljica), Miran Hladnik, Janja Vidmar, Marija Žveglič, Jaka Železnik, Klemen Kocjančič, Mihael Simonič. 5. februar 2009 - Wikivir ima 2000 člankov. Število so zaokrožili Zlati copati uporabnice Ko8zolec. --Janezdrilc 14:03, 5. februar 2009 (UTC) 3. februar 2007 - Dodan je bil 600. vnos, napravili smo 1000 urejanj, registriral se je 76 uporabnik. --Miha (prispevki - pogovor) 13:36, 4. februar 2008 (UTC) 6. februar 2007 - Imamo že 300 besedil. 7. januar 2007 - Imamo že več kot 250 besedil. 31. december 2006 - Imamo že več kot 200 besedil. 31. december 2006 - Zaživel je Portal občestva. 22. december 2006 - Imamo že več kot 150 člankov. Prošnje za dodelitev statusa bota Prošnje za administratorstvo Wikivir:Kaj je potrebno postoriti

Twitter-Bot

Hello all,

I am planning to operate a twitter bot and wanted to include your Wikisource. I would twitter new text from your "new texts" section on the main page. And I need a translation for this phrase to operate the bot: "$book by $author is now available on the Slovenian Wikisource." where $book and $author will be replaced by the bot.

Greetings, --CK85 12:17, 11. januar 2010 (UTC)

Besedilo $book avtorja/ice $author je sedaj na voljo na slovenskem Wikiviru! You can parse data from Template:Naslov. Best regards, --Smihael 18:38, 11. januar 2010 (UTC)

I will parse directly from the main page. It has everything i need :) and whats with avtorja/ice .. either of those words work? --CK85 20:59, 11. januar 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and would it be ok if I'd use Wikisource instead of Wikiviru? so all languages get the same hashtag. --CK85 21:04, 11. januar 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean the Novosti section on main page?

If I translated string back to English, it'd be "Text $book by author $author is now available on the Slovenian Wikisource.". I used "Text" instead "Book" since we also publish poems, etc.

The reason I added "avtor/ice" is that Slovene grammar is quite complicated.

Well at first, words can have different grammatical genders, and they behave differently according to that. They have different forms in different situations according to their gender and some other silly factors, so you basically get a few different patterns of grammatical cases for nouns.

So avtor is male author and avtorica is female author, and because we need to use akkusativ (4th case) avtor changes to avtorja and avtorica to avtorice. To make all even more complicated to foreigners xD (or easier to type), we usually short avtorja/avtorice to avtorja/ice. It would be even more complicated if you wanted to decline author name and surname. For the same reason you cannot use Wikisource instead Wikiviru (locative of Wikivir).

You can find more about Slovene grammar on Wikipedia :D

--Smihael 15:27, 12. januar 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I mean the Novosti section on the main page :) I will update the bot now ans see how it works, thx :) --CK85 21:59, 12. januar 2010 (UTC)

And pls tell me if it works that way. --CK85 22:15, 12. januar 2010 (UTC)

It's okay & cool. Thnx :) BTW it's not wrong if you add hashtag #wikisource at the end. I mean: Besedilo "Ernica gosenica" avtorja/ice Bina Štampe Žmavc je sedaj na voljo na slovenskem Wikiviru (#wikisource). --Smihael 15:07, 13. januar 2010 (UTC)

Nekaj sprememb

Stranska vrstica je spremenjena tako, da se v njej lažje znajde 'potencialni sodelavec, prav tako je preurejena pomoč in v samo shemo bolj vključen čarovnik za dodajanje novosti. Kljub temu se je potrebno posvetiti navodilu za urejanje strani. lp, --Smihael 18:42, 11. januar 2010 (UTC)

Statistika

Ima Wikivir tudi svojo statistiko? Rad bi primerjal z "Borovo gostüvanje" na Wikipediji. --Feri 18:01, 12. februar 2010 (UTC)

Na tak način (po moji vednosti ne). Ko bom imel čas lahko spišem kak programček, ki bo podatke predstavil na tak način. Tole zna biti zanimivo (ne pa tudi uporabno v konkretnem primeru): http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm in http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesWikipediaSL.htm lp, --Smihael 16:19, 16. februar 2010 (UTC)

Poskusi tudi tole: http://wikistics.falsikon.de/latest-daily/wikisource/sl/ --Smihael 16:23, 16. februar 2010 (UTC)

Wikimania Scholarships

The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. To apply, visit the Wikimania 2010 scholarships information page, click the secure link available there, and fill out the form to apply. For additional information, please visit the Scholarships information and FAQ pages:

• Scholarships
• Scholarships FAQ

Yours very truly, Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation

...

Spoštovani!

Lepo prosim, če lahko naslov projekta Lara Zupančič: Obvezno nezaupno spremenite na Lara Zupančič: Strogo nezaupno.

Hvala lepa za čimprejšno pomoč!

Katja Ravnikar,avtorica omenjenega projekta

Urejano --Smihael 22:09, 7. maj 2010 (UTC)

Slogovne napake

Prosil bi za pomoč, da se gre skozi nova (mladinska) besedila in nalepi predlogo {{slog}}, kjer manjka naslovna predloga ali oblikovanje in se uporabnika o tem primerno (po e-mailu) obvesti, da z delom še niso zaključili. Še bolje je, da se manjše napake kar odpravi. Poleti si bom nekaj dni, da bom potem pregledal besedila in jih če bodo še vedno neurejena uredil, tista brez osnovnih podatkov o avtorju pa izbrisal. Hvala in lp, --Smihael 19:20, 7. maj 2010 (UTC)

Stran predlagana za izbris

Vidim, da je v predlogo naslov nekako prišla obvezna licenca, zaradi katere se privzeto povsod napiše "Pogoji pod katerimi je delo objavljeno niso navedeni! Stran je zato predlagana za izbris". S takšnim načinom je več problemov:

1. je res, da je stran predlagana za izbris? Si res upamo kar povprek iz formalnih razlogov brisati koristno delo desetine ljudi, s katerim ni narobe nič drugega kot to, da v času digitalizacije besedila v Wikiviru licenca ni bila zahtevana (na Wikipediji smo enkrat to že počeli s slikami - marsikoga je takrat enkrat minilo veselje do sodelovanja);
2. niti izkušenejšim uporabnikom ni takoj jasno, da "pogoji" pomenijo, da manjka |licenca=;
3. tudi, če nam to postane jasno, še vedno ne vemo, kaj bi moralo pisati tam, da ne bi bilo povezave na grdo rdečo neobstoječo predlogo - ugibal sem, da "javna last" ali "PD-old", ampak ne.

Konkretno me je zmotilo pri Iz arhiva, ki je ta mesec na glavni strani. --romanm (pogovor) 23:02, 27. junij 2010 (UTC)

Strani_za_hitri_izbris

Kategorija:Strani_za_hitri_izbris bi bila za obiskat ... --Andrejj 16:52, 24. september 2010 (UTC)

2010 Fundraising Is Almost Here

Hello Wikimedians, My name is Sam Chapman and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between your community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort; we recognize that banner messages which may perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences.

I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project by helping translate and localize messages into different languages and suggesting messages that would appeal to your readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on meta for both banner submission, statistical analysis, and grouping volunteers together.
Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser. If someone could translate this message I would really appreciate it so that everyone is able to understand our goals and contribute to this year's campaign.
Sam Chapman 05:07, 21. oktober 2010 (UTC)

Kazalo za tekste v djvu

Včasih so se v kazalu besedil v formatu djvu, npr. Kazalo:Jenko_Vaje_1.djvu, korigirane, problematične in nekorigirane strani pokazale lepo v ustreznih barvicah, zdaj pa so te barve izginile. Se jih da vrniti, ker so v veliko pomoč pri urejanju? Hladnikm 18:36, 24. december 2010 (UTC)

Urejeno (potrebno je osvežiti predpomnilnik brskalnika). Na voljo je tudi: začasna rešitev. lp, --Smihael 12:17, 26. december 2010 (UTC)

Call for image filter referendum

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.

For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris

Terms of Use update

I apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 01:17, 27. oktober 2011 (UTC)

Predlog za administratorja

MZaplotnika sem predlagal za administratorja. Prosim, glasujte. --Domen 16:56, 15. november 2011 (UTC)

Podpora za administratorja

Podpiram MZaplotnika za administratorja. Študenti PEF so mu hvaležni za kritične pripombe in opombe, osebno ga podpiram, ker je razgledan, učinkovit in komplementaren, ne pa kompetitiven. Supmblaz 12:14, 16. november 2011 (UTC)M. M. BLAZIC ali supmblaz

Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants

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• Do you want to help attract new contributors to Wikimedia projects?
• Do you want to improve retention of our existing editors?
• Do you want to strengthen our community by diversifying its base and increasing the overall number of excellent participants around the world?

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.

Thanks!

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Community Fellowships, Wikimedia Foundation 03:05, 22. december 2011 (UTC)

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Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

• Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
• New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
• The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
• Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
• Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
• Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
• The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
• More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
• Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
• Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
• Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 16:34, 15. januar 2012 (UTC)

Wsexport: an automatic export tool for Wikisource

Hello, and first sorry for this automatic delivery message.

An export tool for Wikisource books, Wsexport, is currently in active development. It is a tool for exporting Wikisource's texts in EPUB, ODT and other file formats. It was created for French Wikisource, but it's also available for the other Wikisource subdomains. It can be used directly from its page on Toolserver.org (for texts in all languages, use "www" for oldwikisource), or browsing http://wsexport.fr.nf (currently only for French Wikisource's texts).

In order to work, the tool need some configuration from your Wikisource subdomain, This page explains how to do it. Currently French, Italian, English, and German Wikisource does it.

You will find more information on The global Scriptorium. Ask here for all question.

This message was distributed to all Wikisources using the Global message delivery system. If you want to use it to send your messages, ask for permission here. () 21:19, 15. januar 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.19

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:18, 12. februar 2012 (UTC)

Urejevanje

Naletel sem na knjigo, ki je sicer označena z zelenim kvadratkom, a sem našel par tiskarskih napak. Jih lahko popravim ali je treba delo prilagoditi originalu (in so te napake morda že v originalu)? Hvala za pojasnilo. --Radek 16:27, 13. februar 2012 (UTC)

Najbolje, da preveriš v originalu - pod rubriko vir bi moral biti link na dLib ali pa COBISS. Ali lahko prosim poveš za katero delo gre? lp, --Smihael 09:57, 19. februar 2012 (UTC)

Odgovarjam z zamudo, kriva je gripa! Delo, ki sem ga omenil, je Butalci. Ponavljam, gre za res majhne tiskovne napake, pa jih bom preveril z originalom, kot svetuješ. Primeri:

• v prvi zgodbi, v odstavku, ki govori, kako mlinske stope oznanjajo Tepanjčane: zadnja beseda naj bo slišali namesto slisali.
• v zgodbi Kriva vera v Butalah, prvi odstavek. piše: ...so rekli Bulalci: "Mi tudi! Kar imajo v Tepanjčani, ...
• v isti zgodbi, predzadnji odstavek, piše radovediiih
• v zgodbi O Butalcu v smreki in mački, ki ni marala pipca v tretjem odstavku piše nevš ečne
• v Zaljubljeni zgodbi županovega sina je v četrtem odstavku piše njegovemn
• v zgodbi Butalski kovač v petem odstavku piše Dideldac
• v zgodbi Butalski gasilci takoj v prvi vrstici piše Butalahimajo
• v isti zgodbi je proti koncu četrtega odstavka s njim namesto z njim
• v isti zgodbi v začetku petega odstavka v Bulalah, kmalu nato tomhola
• v zgodbi Kako sta se skušala Butalec in Tepanjčan tretji odstavek v kosku

Pozdrav. --Radek (pogovor) 12:08, 24. februar 2012 (UTC)

To so po vsej verjetnosti napake, ki nastanejo pri optičnem prepoznavanju OCR (pri pretvorbi iz slik v črke). Mislim, da jih lahko mirne duše popraviš. Popraviti bi jih morali že prejšnji urejevalci, a so bili prepovršni. Zeleni kvadratek ni nekaj absolutnega, napake take vrste lahko najdeš tudi v besedilih, označenih z njim. M♦Zaplotnik ^prispevki 23:08, 24. februar 2012 (UTC)

To z zelenim kvadratkom sem že večkrat opažal; v nekem mailu imam spisan predlog da uvedemo petstopenjsko lestvico potrjevanja. Razložim več kasneje, ko utegnem. lp, --Smihael (pogovor) 22:15, 25. februar 2012 (UTC)

Bot flag for GedawyBot

Moved to: Wikivir:Prošnje za delovanje botov --Smihael 10:07, 19. februar 2012 (UTC)

Prosim za izbris

Duma (Lenard) sem ustvarila prehitro - nisem preverila datuma smrti avtorja. Prosim za izbris članka in pripadajoče pogovorne strani. Irena Plahuta (pogovor) 22:39, 20. maj 2012 (UTC)

Brisano. Mimogrede: vidim, da si na wikivir naložila po eno pesem sv. Ignacija Lojolskega in sv. Janeza od Križa v slovenskem prevodu. Izvirni pesmi sta seveda javna last, ker so jima avtorske pravice potekle, a v pravu se tudi prevod šteje za avtorsko delo. Pesmi pa sta prevedla še živeča prevajalca in brez njunega privoljenja (ter privoljenja založnikov, ki sta prevode pesmi izdala) pesmi ne bi smela objaviti na Wikiviru. Za prevod velja enaka omejitev kot za izvirno literarno delo, javna last postane šele 70 let po smrti tistega, ki ga je naredil. Ker je večina slovenskih prevodov nastala šele v 20. stoletju, imamo na wikiviru tako malo prevedenih del, eno redkih je recimo Božanska komedija. M♦Zaplotnik ^prispevki 08:57, 21. maj 2012 (UTC)